How Jesus Died For You
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Below are facts on How Jesus Died For You. I do not think that we really understand how much Jesus did for us. Please share this post to spread the Good News of Jesus.
Crucifixion was invented by the Persians in 300 BC, and perfected by the Romans in 100 BC.
1. It is the most painful death ever invented by man and is where we get our term "excruciating."
2. It was reserved primarily for the most vicious of male criminals.
3. Jesus was stripped naked and His clothing divided by the Roman guards. This was in fulfillment of Psalm 22:18, "They divide My garments among them, and for My clothing they cast lots."
4. The Crucifixion of Jesus guaranteed a horrific, slow, painful death.
5. Jesus' knees were flexed at about 45 degrees, and He was forced to bear His
weight with the muscles of His thigh, which is not an anatomical position which is possible to maintain for more than a few minutes without severe cramp in the muscles of the thigh and calf.
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6. Jesus' weight was borne on His feet, with nails driven through them. As the strength of the muscles of Jesus' lower limbs tired, the weight of His body had to be transferred to His wrists, His arms, and His shoulders.
7. Within a few minutes of being placed on the Cross, Jesus' shoulders were dislocated. Minutes later Jesus' elbows and wrists became dislocated.
8. The result of these upper limb dislocations is that His arms were 9 inches longer than normal, as clearly shown on the Shroud.
9. In addition prophecy was fulfilled in Psalm 22:14, "I am poured out like water, and all My bones are out of joint."
10. After Jesus' wrists, elbows, and shoulders were dislocated, the weight of His body on his upper limbs caused traction forces on the Pectoralis Major muscles of His chest wall.
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11. These traction forces caused His rib cage to be pulled upwards and outwards, in a most unnatural state. His chest wall was permanently in a position of maximal respiratory inspiration. In order to exhale, Jesus was physiologically required to force His body.
12. In order to breathe out, Jesus had to push down on the nails in His feet to raise His body, and allow His rib cage to move downwards and inwards to expire air from His lungs.
13. His lungs were in a resting position of constant maximum inspiration. Crucifixion is a medical catastrophe.
14. The problem was that Jesus could not easily push down on the nails in His feet because the muscles of His legs, bent at 45 degrees, were extremely fatigued, in severe cramp, and in an anatomically compromised position.
15. Unlike all Hollywood movies about the Crucifixion, the victim was extremely active. The crucified victim was physiologically forced to move up and down the cross, a distance of about 12 inches, in order to breathe.
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16. The process of respiration caused excruciating pain, mixed with the absolute terror of asphyxiation.
17. As the six hours of the Crucifixion wore on, Jesus was less and less able to bear His weight on His legs, as His thigh and calf muscles became increasingly exhausted. There was increasing dislocation of His wrists, elbows and shoulders, and further elevation of His chest wall, making His breathing more and more difficult. Within minutes of crucifixion Jesus became severely dyspnoeic (short of breath).
18. His movements up and down the Cross to breathe caused excruciating pain in His wrist, His feet, and His dislocated elbows and shoulders.
19. The movements became less frequent as Jesus became increasingly exhausted, but the terror of imminent death by asphyxiation forced Him to continue in His efforts to breathe.
20. Jesus' lower limb muscles developed excruciating cramp from the effort of pushing down on His legs, to raise His body, so that He could breathe out, in their anatomically compromised position.
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21. The pain from His two shattered median nerves in His wrists exploded with every movement.
22. Jesus was covered in blood and sweat.
23. The blood was a result of the Scourging that nearly killed Him, and the sweat as a result of His violent involuntary attempts to effort to expire air from His lungs. Throughout all this He was completely naked, and the leaders of the Jews, the crowds, and the thieves on both sides of Him were jeering, swearing and laughing at Him. In addition, Jesus' own mother was watching.
24. Physiologically, Jesus' body was undergoing a series of catastrophic and terminal events.
25. Because Jesus could not maintain adequate ventilation of His lungs, He was now in a state of hypo-ventilation (inadequate ventilation).
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26. His blood oxygen level began to fall, and He developed Hypoxia (low blood oxygen). In addition, because of His restricted respiratory movements, His blood carbon dioxide (CO2) level began to rise, a condition known as Hypercritical.
27. This rising CO2 level stimulated His heart to beat faster in order to increase the delivery of oxygen, and the removal of CO2.
28. The Respiratory Center in Jesus' brain sent urgent messages to his lungs to breathe faster, and Jesus began to pant.
29. Jesus' physiological reflexes demanded that He took deeper breaths, and He involuntarily moved up and down the Cross much faster, despite the excruciating pain. The agonizing movements spontaneously started several times a minute, to the delight of the crowd who jeered Him, the Roman soldiers, and the Sanhedrin.
30. However, due to the nailing of Jesus to the Cross and His increasing exhaustion, He was unable to provide more oxygen to His oxygen starved body.
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31. The twin forces of Hypoxia (too little oxygen) and Hypercapnia (too much CO2) caused His heart to beat faster and faster, and Jesus developed Tachycardia.
32. Jesus' heart beat faster and faster, and His pulse rate was probably about 220 beats/minute, the maximum normally sustainable.
33. Jesus had drunk nothing for 15 hours, since 6 pm the previous evening. Jesus had endured a scourging which nearly killed Him.
34. He was bleeding from all over His body following the Scourging, the crown of thorns, the nails in His wrists and feet, and the lacerations following His beatings and falls.
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35. Jesus was already very dehydrated, and His blood pressure fell alarmingly.
36. His blood pressure was probably about 80/50.
37. He was in First Degree Shock, with Hypovolaemia (low blood volume), Tachycardia (excessively fast Heart Rate), Tachypnoea (excessively fast Respiratory Rate), and Hyperhidrosis (excessive sweating).
39. Jesus' lungs probably began to fill up with Pulmonary Oedema.
40. This only served to exacerbate His breathing, which was already severely compromised.
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41. Jesus was in Heart Failure and Respiratory Failure.
42. Jesus said, "I thirst" because His body was crying out for fluids.
43. Jesus was in desperate need of an intravenous infusion of blood and plasma to save His life
44. Jesus could not breathe properly and was slowly suffocating to death.
45. At this stage Jesus probably developed a Haemopericardium.
46. Plasma and blood gathered in the space around His heart, called the Pericardium.
47. This fluid around His heart caused Cardiac Tamponade (fluid around His heart, which prevented Jesus' heart from beating properly).
48. Because of the increasing physiological demands on Jesus' heart, and the advanced state of Haemopericardium, Jesus probably eventually sustained Cardiac Rupture. His heart literally burst. This was probably the cause of His death.
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49. To slow the process of death the soldiers put a small wooden seat on the Cross, which would allow Jesus the "privilege" of bearing His weight on his sacrum.
50. The effect of this was that it could take up to nine days to die on a Cross.
51. When the Romans wanted to expedite death they would simply break the legs of the victim, causing the victim to suffocate in a matter of minutes. This was called Crucifragrum.
52. At three o'clock in the afternoon Jesus said, "Tetelastai," meaning, "It is finished." At that moment, He gave up His Spirit, and He died.
53. When the soldiers came to Jesus to break His legs, He was already dead. Not a bone of His body was broken, in fulfillment of prophecy (above).
54. Jesus died after six hours of the most excruciating and terrifying torture ever invented.
55. Jesus died so that ordinary people like you and me could go to Heaven.
All He Asks You is to Love Him, Your Lord, Your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind!! Can't you even do this for Him?
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The Anatomical And Physiological Details Of Death By Crucifixion:
By Dr. C. Truman Davis
A Physician Analyzes the Crucifixion.
From New Wine Magazine, April 1982.
Originally published in Arizona Medicine,
March 1965, Arizona Medical Association.
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1 – 200 of 543 Newer› Newest»Jesus did not die on a cross, the word cross was added on the bible, the original Greek word was stake so his hands were both up.
If you do your research on roman executions, you can confirm that they use to nail people to stakes.
There is a history and symbol for the cross and why it was added to the bible, but it wasn't how it really happened.
Prosper and search for 100% truth always.
Hello Anonymous:
Before you throw around your 'knowledge' of the crucifixion , I suggest you do some reading of your own : The Crucifixion of Jesus..a Forensic Inquiry by Frederick T, Zugibe, MD., Ph.D
wow! amazing!
Anonymous,
The Persians use a pole and the Romans adopted this method but through the years use a cross bar to spread out the arms. Many Roman images have been found showing both methods, The Greek word for cross ment cross. Christians claimed the symbol of the cross because Jesus the Massiah (the Christ in Greek) died on a cross. Thinking themselves wise they became fools,
What does it matter if it was a cross or not really; it still was excruciating pain and yet the world is still surroundrd in evil
I would of not been able to watch that I cry when I think I hit a squirrel.
I would of went and took him down
Even reading this brings me to tears....
if Christ is not crucified,my lif is in vain...
if Christ was not crucified, my life and hope is in vain....
Everyone gets caught up in the details and not the true meaning behind it. He sacrificed His Life for all of us. He endured horrible humiliation and pain, for all of us. His Father sent His only Son to Death for all of us. Shouldn't we show respect and honor to our Creator Father for this supreme sacrifice. We not longer have to buy baby animals at the church door to be slaughtered as a blood sacrifice. Jesus was that Lamb. It's not just How He died, it's WHY HE DIED....WHY HE CAME BACK....WHY HE STILL LIVES.....BECAUSE GOD LOVES ALL OF US....EVERYONE.
common argument of Jehovah Witness's to deny the saving face of the Cross of Jesus Christ. JWs think the cross is pagan, and that Roman Catholics worship the cross, that they try to distance themselves from it. Well, of course the cross was pagan! Rome was a pagan empire, and they used various different types of crosses to torture people to death. But Jesus triumphed because of the cross, and the Bible tells us that the cross is the power of God unto salvation! Paul said he gloried in the cross of Christ! Jesus told us to pick up our cross daily in order to follow Him! But the JWs seem to stumble over the cross of Christ, deriding it. Alas, their doctrine of what Jesus accomplished by his death is badly affected, and they would try to limit it. It seems they neither understand who it was, dying at Calvary, nor grasp the magnitude of what He achieved. That is why they say that people must pay for their own sins by dying. This violates the achievement of Christ's death to an appalling extent. They are not preaching the truth of the gospel (or good news) of what Jesus did by dying and being resurrected.
May his sacrifice not be in vain.
Thank you Jesus for your sacrifice.
Now as you read of the suffering Christ endured on the cross for us all, presenting your bodies as living sacrifice doesn't sound too bad does it? It is our "reasonable" service. Praise God.
Amen
Amen
It matters not if Jesus died by cross, firing squad, hanging or anything else. The moral of the story is that he died then he arose.
It matters not if Jesus died by cross, firing squad, hanging or anything else. The moral of the story is that he died then he arose.
It does not matter if Jesus died on a cross, a stake, by firing squad or by hanging (or any imaginable form of execution). The moral of the story is that he died then arose three days later.
It doesn't matter if it was a tree, a cross or a stake that Jesus dies on. The FACT that should be on everyones mind is that he suffered for us all. He could have called 10,000 angels to help him, but he didn't. And for all that we should give him praise and not worry about what Jesus died on. Thank you Jesus for dying for me and I pray that you give me a humble heart.
Are you with the JWs. This is most typical of them to argue this as a means to disqualified the beliefs of Christians. You are leaving out some critical details. Translating also involves the use of context and historical knowledge since some words can be translated multiple ways so your statement cannot be really verified since many types of crosses were used and it leads to useless arguments. What really matters is whether Jesus Christ died on a singular pole or a two beamed cross in the end. The more important matter is the fact the Jesus Christ actually died for our sins, paving the way to our Salvation and reconciliation with God. This is a fact and the message of the gospel. Christ is our hope not the type of cross that he died on.
Stop wasting your time and your lives worrying about a character that may/may not have existed and if they did was likely as deluded as any individual who thinks themselves a messiah. The story of the resurrection, like much christian fairy tales, are pulled directly from other religious sources. Of course, if you are going to continue this can you write next about the death of Alyona Ivanovna, the moneylender!
Thank you, I love you Jesus.
In that I appreciate these details, & it makes me praise & thank Jesus even more fervently, I feel led to mention this…. What are the wages of sin? And how many sins did Jesus commit? It wouldn't have mattered if his heart exploded, or head exploded, or entire body exploded…He wouldn't have died! Why? He had NO SIN. Any normal person would have died during the flogging. That is why they flogged him 39 times. Roman law stated if someone lived thru 40 "flogs", they were forgiven of their crime. They fully expected him to die. But once they got to 39, they couldn't take the chance that He would live thru it. This is why the OT says, "He was MORE MARRED than any man". When He was on the cross, death didn't overtake Him. He GAVE UP. I have a very interesting study of this incredible battle strategy that The Father, The Holy Spirit, and The Son put together to rescue us. It shows how the enemy was completely fooled by this strategy,,,and how Sinless Jesus entered into the place of darkness completely covered in sin….but STILL as the LIGHT of the world….and I might add, still with His brilliance of His transfiguration, and arrived in hell, dumped off all the sins, shone as this incredible Light, and left ……taking with Him the keys!…and rescuing us…all at the same time!
Please check your spelling on a few words but otherwise horrific torture for someone like me that He loves so much!
For those that say they would have taken Him down, consider this. It was the Father's will for Jesus to be crucified as a sacrifice for our sins. If you took him down, your sins would not be forgiven, as the sacrifice would not have happened. We needed Him to die for us.
All this is probably wat would happen to a person put in this situation but hear is the truth,,,Christianity Came from Paganisim as all religions have.Easter was originally the celebration of Ishtar, The assyrian & Babylonian goddess of fertility & sex. Her symbols (like the egg & the bunny) were & still are fertility & sex symbols . After Constantine decided to Christianize the Empire, Easter was changed to represent Jesus. but at its roots, Easter ( Which is how you pronounce Ishtar) is all about celibrating Fertility & sex. ;) look it up people.
This was interesting. How many have really thought about all this agonizing that Jesus went through for us. I would pray and hope that more will understand Jesus Christ loves us more and deeper than any human can. I will never understand how people can turn their backs to him or walk away from him. Tears come to my eyes and my heart as I read this and everyday as I think about all that he has done for me. As much as I try I know I could never love him as much as he has loved me. I will continue to love him with all I have, be grateful for everyday that he walks with me and know in my heart that he is what I live for. Let us share his pain and suffering while we also rejoice in his joy and know that he has risen from this horrible death and lives. God Loves You and Me. Let us show he lives by the way we live our lives. Jesus lives in us. Let us not be Hippocrates by just talking about it, but let us do the best we can and walk with Jesus in his shoes. Try to live the life of Jesus and see how far you can go before you ask for God's help. I have to ask daily. God bless you all.
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You are wrong and your research had proved you useless.
He was a fictional character that was made up 100 to 200 years after he supposedly died. Many of the facts that were used came from a man that lived more than 50 years before but was killed by the Romans and left to rot in the mountains.
Well said!
Well said!
Jesus, P.B.U.H, was crucified, however, he did not die for our sins. This was not his purpose in life. Here is proof. If you go back to the story of Ibrahim, P.B.U.H. When he was having vision and hearing voices from Allah telling him to sacrifice his son, Ibrahim P.B.U.H went to his son Ishmeal, and told him of the visions and voices from Allah. He asked Ishmeal about it, and there was IMMEDIATE obedience. Ishmeal said absolutely. There was no push back, no hesitation what so ever. This is showing how strong the obedience is when it comes to Allah and his will.
So if we look at the story of Jesus, P.B.U.H, when he was condemned to death by crucifixion, if you read the bible, you will see that there was push back from Jesus, P.B.U.H. There was hesitation and questioning of this to Allah. My question to those who believe that Jesus, P.B.U.H, died on the cross for our sins, is why that if this was his goal, if this was what Allah had sent him to do, that being dying for our sins, why was there push back? Why was there hesitation? As we saw with Ibrahim P.B.U.H and his son Ishmeal, there was obedience when Allah said what he wanted. Why was there no obedience with Jesus, P.B.U.H?
I ask those who believe in his death for our sins, to ponder on this thought.
A religion based around a human sacrifice, to give people a loop hole around violating laws that would forever keep you from heaven. Heres a better idea, live a good life, be caring of others, and love humanity for its diversity. Pursue truth, science, and love the precious time you have, as an atheist i have nothing to die for, and everything to live for.
I'm so sick of JWs throwing their junk around. Your travesty of a religion and bastardization of Holy Scripture is a fallacy of monumental proportions. The Latin word used in early scripture to describe the device used to kill Jesus was crux romano. Meaning Roman CROSS. being either T or t. Deal with it.
Very well said. As a former JW, I have to agree completely!
You are right that this is how Roman crucifixions were originally performed, however, by the time Christ was crucified, they had "perfected" it to make the victim live as long as possible to make them suffer more. When the hands were both up - over the head - the victims would suffocate very quickly. This is why when they needed to hasten death, they would break the legs so that the victims would sag down in a similar manner.
Fun fact: John was the only Gospel writer who was present at the crucifix , however his gospel was written last, and much later than the rest, also he would have been in his 90s when he wrote.. because people in the Classical Antiquity Period live to be in their 90s, though the life expectancy was about 45-47 years.. #godismagick
I as a Christian I believe that Jesus was 100% God and 100% human. The 100% human was required for Him to be born and live a life with temptation. The 100% God was required for Jesus to resist temptation and stay sinless. This mixture of pure, sinless, perfection was required to be a sufficient sacrifice to forgive sin. The human part of Jesus can be seen when He is in the garden waiting for Judas to betray Him. Jesus asks that if there were any other way for sin to be forgiven, that He would not have to go to the cross. However much the human part of Him wanted to live, the God part knew that He had to go to the cross to save humanity whom He loves so much. At the end of His prayer Jesus says "Your will be done": knowing that He will go to the cross.
Whether a simple stake, or tau (as in the drawing) or +, I don't think we can dogmatically say from "σταυρός" in scripture. We ought to be following the Creator, not a symbol.
There are 27 documented testaments, there are numerous artifacts that support all of this, the image on Jesus's cloth is consistent with an image of photography, which can't be explained because it happened hundreds of years before photography was invented. Jesus was here on earth there is plenty of proof and scientific evidence. If you fail to believe then you'll find out when you face him in the end. Atheists always preach science, however fail to acknowledge the scientific facts that back up Jesus and all that happened. Everyone has good and bad even Atheists have good and bad, it's part of a needed balance. There is always be good and bad.... I chose good and I chose God. I respect those that differ in opinion, but I pray for you that one day you will find the way to true light, peace, and happiness and that you will open your mind to the scientific facts that back Jesus.
There are 27 documented testaments, there are numerous artifacts that support all of this, the image on Jesus's cloth is consistent with an image of photography, which can't be explained because it happened hundreds of years before photography was invented. Jesus was here on earth there is plenty of proof and scientific evidence. If you fail to believe then you'll find out when you face him in the end. Atheists always preach science, however fail to acknowledge the scientific facts that back up Jesus and all that happened. Everyone has good and bad even Atheists have good and bad, it's part of a needed balance. There is always be good and bad.... I chose good and I chose God. I respect those that differ in opinion, but I pray for you that one day you will find the way to true light, peace, and happiness and that you will open your mind to the scientific facts that back Jesus.
Jesus did not die of asphyxiation , remember His words He said He had power to Lay down His life and power to
take it up again,HE died because that was the only way He could demonstrate that HE loved us and that HE conquered death
so that death would be swallowed up in Victory ,in other words He had the last word.,and we are forgiven and rescued from Satan and his domain, if we believe in JESUS as our Saviour and Lord.!!!
Why do people who are of a different belief often sow 'bad seeds' amongst us? I just literally never notice, nor will even consider to look into any of their forums by sheer curiosity. We don't go out of our way to prove other beliefs wrong, why do everyone else do the opposite of that to us? Because we do not need anything else but what we have - the TRUTH.
The internet is full of anonymous people trying to put others below them, and yet the irony is that of a savior above us all being publicly debated by those same anonymous tyrants looking to put down others to bring themselves up. Respect others and respect yourself. Christian or not, you hurt those who would hurt you and end up alone. We all die, what matters is our stature in the dying. Is that not what this is about? What were you worth to the rest of us? What was I worth to you? My words are not yours, but our ideas are the same. Don't argue about the scripture or the names. Find common ground in the ideals of religion and either devote or resign yourself to the sacrifices you will make for those around you. Believe in the life you were given as something meant to be lived and give your all so that you may be remembered fondly. Otherwise your life was worthless here.
Amen
Jesus and God are the same or at least closely related depending on which flavor you prescibe to. So God sacrificed himself to himself in order to save us from a punishment that he created?
Wether it be ignorance or fact. I love all of you as did our king and lord Christ. Find him in your heart and mind to help eliminate this evil in wich we all live. Amen
During that era, untold thousands, if not more, died on the cross. Who's sins did they perish for?
It amazes me how often the so called righteous ignore all the things that man stood for. I know nothing of him, but I know that I am of his kind.Let me be the only man to die for his own sins.
oh for goodness sake...really? are you serious? you are actually going to act like a complete ass and take the time to dispute this...dear anonymous? . wow....sounds to me as if you need a life. you are an idiot and it is for this reason and the way you are behaving that causes religious wars. I normally stay out of these types of conversations and mind my own business..but I couldnt stand your stupidness and ignorance. Does it really matter what he was crucified on? Where you there to see it? Before you start throwing around your so called supreme knowledge ...lol...which is a joke..why dont you focus on what really matters?Facts are that he died for us and it was a very cruel death no matter how it was done and none of us where there to see exactly what it was..so drop the " I am smarter than everybody else crap"! Your attitude sucks and if I were you..I would ask the Lord to work on your attitude. People like you give having a relationship with God ..a bad name and make me sick to my stomach.. Do you have some kind of self esteem issue in which you feel the need to make everybody think you know everything...? well...Stop it...because you know nothing and all you are looking like is a jerk..Get over your ignorant self!! have a nice day!
You are delusional..God help you when you face him on Judgement day..I do however sincerely hope that you find the truth and get your sorry butt saved before you die...cuz if you dont..sorry but we cant give you any water when your burning in hell. Can I be any more clear?
I do not usually feel the need to comment on blogs, but I will in this case. For the record I am a Catholic, and the cross is a symbol. We do not worship the crucifix. We worship the one who was crucified as all Christians do. The reason we display a crucifix is because you cannot separate Jesus' death from his Resurrection. The Resurrection would not make sense if it was not for his death. The crucifix reminds us every time we look upon it of the ultimate sacrifice of the Christ. It really does not matter if Jesus died on a lower case t cross, an upper case T cross, a stake, etc. Again it is a symbol used by many Churches not a deity. When I pray before a crucifix, I am praying to Jesus not the object. The crucifix is simply used as a tool to focus prayer.
In response to other questions, Jesus being God could have walked off the cross. He could have said "you know what i'm done and you are on your own" but he did not. He died out of love. The argument of Jesus dying to appease the Father is flawed because Jesus is one with the Father and the Holy Spirit. His death and resurrection are the way our God chose to show his love for us and to save us. God Bless you all, and since Easter is a 50 day long celebration, Happy Easter!
I just don't understand why the Catholics only wear crucifix's instead of just a cross. Is it just a reminder that He died on the cross, or that He has not Risen yet?
a stake is a pole placed in the ground to carry the weight, the vertical beam. the cross is named because of the horizontal beam.
It is a type of the first and second commandment, 1)love YHWH with all...2)love your neighbor as yourself... ie, the vertical relationship of God to man and the horizontal relationship of our fellow man. tis' why He was crucified between two others..don't let just any wind bag blow you off course.
cross =@
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listen to yourself, is he REALLY the one who is delusional? Judgement day? ha don't hold your breath. breath. Get yourself saved? Why don't you get an education. I don't think anyone will be asking you for water when they are dead and decomposing in the ground. Honestly can you ignorant religious sheep provide ANY proof for anything you believe in?
listen to yourself, is he REALLY the one who is delusional? Judgement day? ha don't hold your breath. breath. Get yourself saved? Why don't you get an education. I don't think anyone will be asking you for water when they are dead and decomposing in the ground. Honestly can you ignorant religious sheep provide ANY proof for anything you believe in?
In the Orthodox faith, we don't call it "Easter". It is called "Pascha" or Passover. The resurrection is considered to be the new passover. It falls at a time when Pagans celebrated the spring rite, which is why bunnies and chicks are thrown into the mix on a secular level. What does it matter? For Christians, it represents that there is life after death on a spiritual level.
Beautifully stated
Amen. He gave himself a ransom for ALL.
Here is the bottom line.. Christ died FOR our sins, was buried and rose again the third day. (1 Corinthians 15:3-4) It is because of that resurrection that when we TRUST not only believe, That we are Justified before God and ALL of our sin/s past, present and future are forgiving. Christ was both Man and God and for that reason He was the perfect and the only sacrifice God could accept for our sin/s. The person who wrote this blog was merely trying to show the pain which Christ went through. Rather he is right or wrong don't really matter. What Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ did does matter.
Da'voine. When Abraham was asked to sacrifice his son he did hesitate. You might want to retread your bible because Abraham was filled with sorrow at the thought of killing his son he prayed for so many years to have. That's human nature... He didn't just say "ok god, no problem" and Jesus never hesitated, he was human, he prayed for strength. He could have easily said, "I lied I'm not the son of god" and he would've been let free. Instead, he looked in the face of the roman priests and said, "I am the son of god. And you will see me ascend to heaven" he was a man. Weak. He is my lord and savior, holy is Yahweh.
You notice no-one is stating anything about Jesus being resurrected
Jesus lived Jesus died and so on, but where is the facts on resurrection
How is this fake?
Fictional character? Your so stupid!
I could not agree more my friend, fictional as a unicorn.
How Dafaq i ended up here, people still believing there is a god because over 9000 planets are the cause of 1 god on our planet? yer, right
I will pray for you...
Read the bible it says nails in his hand, not just nail
Read the early Church Fathers
Christ is Risen
The Cross reminds us that we have to also carry the cross
The only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ His Son. If you do not believe, then May God have mercy on your soul. This was an extremely well written article that puts in perspective what Jesus went through on the cross. Thank you Lord for the gift you gave to mankind. . . the right to choose and accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. Praise God in the Highest. For Thine is the Kingdom, and the Power and the Glory forever.
The only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ His Son. If you do not believe, then May God have mercy on your soul. This was an extremely well written article that puts in perspective what Jesus went through on the cross. Thank you Lord for the gift you gave to mankind. . . the right to choose and accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. Praise God in the Highest. For Thine is the Kingdom, and the Power and the Glory forever.
Amen. Thank You my Lord and Savior for giving your Life so we can be Forgivin of our Sins my Life and Will is yours. Amen
History proved that Jesus actually lived. I know He live because of the Spirit that he left for us dwells in my heart.
It is hard for me to grasp that this is an easy choose. Jesus told us to admit we are sinners and to believe in him. That's it. Eternal life awaits us in return. To believe cost nothing but a lil self pride. To refuse this Great Gift is eternity separated from our God and eternal life in a lake of fire. Thank you Lord for the narrow path. Help me help others find it Lord in Jesus name.
Anonymous, why do you fear the truth. Why do you hide?
spoiler alert.... Jesus is fake!! so there got you all. You should probably do more research of Science, which proves that their is no god. Religion is for dumb people that have to justify their existence, and for those that want to make a lot of money by scamming the government out of billions in tax dollars.
This is a wonderful article for the glimpse of the what our Savior went threw for us. How can one look at a new born life and not see God.. how can u watch a sunset and not see God.. Debate Gods existence or Jesus's life all you want.. But one day.. EVERY knee shall bow and tongue confess!
This is a wonderful article for the glimpse of the what our Savior went threw for us. How can one look at a new born life and not see God.. how can u watch a sunset and not see God.. Debate Gods existence or Jesus's life all you want.. But one day.. EVERY knee shall bow and tongue confess!
If someone is an atheist than more than likely the believe in evolution.. So with that said can anyone who is an atheist prove to me, by actual facts, that evolution is real? You can not fully believe in evolution with out faith.. Same as us Christians.... We believe by faith and not sight .. Jesus is alive as much as I am today if not more
Fake. Real. Your choice. If we choose to believe blindly and are wrong, we haven't lost or gained anything and we will be known only as folks who lived a good life. If we are right, we gain it all.. I guarantee you, you haven't changed one person's opinion today.
Amazing is how people will take a stance to say what is real or fake. Let the world tell it. Jews weren't marched off to the gas chamber by the Germans. Black weren't in slaves like the media portrays. Bottom line Jesus died on the cross. But the most amazing part is that he rose from the dead. The story of the whipping and beating can be told over and over. People though out time have been punished and tortured but not one of them have risen from the dead. Only Jesus has done this. And as Ripleys says Believe or not but at the end of time every knee shall bend and every tongue will confess
Amen. For the sake of Your sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world. Amen.
i appreciate this very much.
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Would "have".
You're (as in "you are") getting confused with the contraction "would've", as in "would have".
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It's a shame how cruel people were back then. Mentally ill/delusional people who think that they are the son of a deity do not deserve that kind of punishment. Just because his mother was promiscuous and had to make up some ridiculous lie so that she wouldn't get stoned to death, and that guy grew up believing what his mother told him, doesn't mean he should be horrendously tortured to death. Poor fellow.
a Deluded Messiah Preaching Love Is Worth The Mistake Of Devotion Not Fulfilled, Because Of The Effect Of The Love The Follower Can Then Bring To The World. That "Waste" Of Time, Is A Much More Noble Cause Than The Constant Fight To tear Down The Beliefs Of Another.
i sit here with tears rolling out of my because this is horrible, a good man was punished and tortured! if you can not saying anything but your own spite for others you are missing the point this is to humble you to bring back to realize human being are horrible and we can sit here behind a screen and hate this is not a post or a page for hate just read if you don't believe and realize if you do
if you dont belive its okay but please dont come here to start a fight come to learn, and if you do believe understand now what has been done for you. i cant help but cry when i read this, my lord and savior in so much pain and to read it in such scientific way is hard, harder than i imagined
i sit here with tears rolling out of my because this is horrible, a good man was punished and tortured! if you can not saying anything but your own spite for others you are missing the point this is to humble you to bring back to realize human being are horrible and we can sit here behind a screen and hate this is not a post or a page for hate just read if you don't believe and realize if you do
Sure he was as right as rain three days later. No big deal.
Yes, Jesus did go to Gethsemane and pray for that cup to be passed from Him, but He ends his prayer asking for His Father's will to be done. Remember, while he was still 100% divine, he was also 100% man. The scriptures say He emptied himself to become like us. I believe that this means He let go of the ability to use His power outside the Father's will; if He kept full reign, He would not be man, and if He gave it all up, He would not be God. Have you ever asked God to take away all your troubles? To me, it comes down to this. If Jesus had no ulterior motive to go to the cross, why would he willingly and quietly go to such a painful death? He did not want to go through that pain, but He loved everyone enough to do just that.
This is soo awesome and true
EDUCATIONAL ""FACTS"" THAT I NEVER KNEW. THIS IS TRULY A ""PAINFUL STORY OF THE LOVE **JESUS** GAVE HIS ALL & ALL UNTIL DEATH, SO THAT WE MAY LIVE !! ***THANK YOU JESUS** ??!! FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE, AND STILL DOING FOR ""ME"" AMEN........
@Jeremy Scott
I dont know man, I think I would rather have something to die for. However my faith allows me to live for everything as well.
I used to be an agnostic, now Christian so I know the thought process and how ridiculous religion can sound/seem. Now as a Christian life became easier to bare.
but here's my argument when it comes to agnostics/atheists:
I know that when my time comes, if I have been mistaken and there is no Heaven, no hell, no God then I've lived the good life and lost absolutely nothing.
If my faith is correct then I have lived the good life and have EVERYTHING to gain.
so why not have faith? you've got absolutely nothing to lose. everything to win.
So sad and true. We should all REPENT and see the goodness of the Lord. We are sinners and not worthy of his love for us. He died for our sins, thank you JESUS MY LORD.
It will surely be a sad day for the non believers on the last day, i truly feel sorry for these people, just remember it is never too late to believe.
It is heartbreaking to me that so many of you have unresolved issues with Jesus, etc. & will avoid faith or a means of finding faith (Bible, church, etc.) like the plague, insisting that we Christians follow you down that chaotic path. It is even sadder that so many Christians will abuse their relationships with Jesus & God by teaching without true understanding & threatening fire & brimstone when we should be welcoming nonbelievers to church &/or Bible study. No one's gonna change anyone's perspectives with insults, mockery, etc.
Until you tuely know him personally. You don't know what to believe about any of this. But believe me when the Holy Spirit comes to you and convicts your heart. And you feel the STRONGEST most INTENSE presence you have felt in your life. It will be then that you realize ALL this is TRUE and absolutely incredible. I have never had a drug or drink that even compared to the feeling I felt the day I accepted Jesus into my heart. My friends ask me why do I believe in him. Because I met him. And look forward to meeting him face to face. Jennifer Nunn
Because He lives, I can face tomorrow. May His mighty name be praised. Matthew 18:19 . . . . #MachoniMwangu
I some how came across this article and I'M
wondering who you think gave man the knowledge to invent science. God gave it to them!! Ur opinion is yours n u will have to work that out in the end!! I didn't believe either until I was on my face as addict I didn't think I was loved, why else would I keep hurting myself n family? I was saved by a non denominational church that purely believes having a relationship with Jesus is the only way!!! IM not perfect no one will ever be!!! the government sucks yes but those are. man made laws not God's laws!!! so i pray you read Revolutions cause he is coming back for us and HELL is real!!!
I agree wholeheartedly. Thank you.
This is all such a waste of time. You belong to a death cult.
If Jesus had been killed twenty years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses.”
― Lenny Bruce
i know jesus is my savior. see all who accepted Him as I did in eternity forever filled with love of the grace of God! Amen!
💖JESUS DIED FOR US 💜WE SHOULD LIVE FOR HIM 💙I LOVE MY JESUS 💖💚💙💛💜💝
Well Anonymous if you don't have your hope in Jesus and the power of the cross. What and where is your hope when life gets tough?
Amen!!!!
Alice Coopers Christian Testimony
So, believe it or not but rock legend Alice Cooper is a self proclaimed Born again Christian. Watch him tell his story about how God changed his life. Tell us what your opinion is about him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEpasImGZnw
Wow, talk about a psycho bad attitude response lol! Isn't it funny how the most hateful people come out of the wood work and call everyone else jerks, say their attitude sucks, calls people idiots, try to act like they don't do this everyday and probably have this same attitude at home and work, call other people ignorant and stupid for not agreeing with them or just because they actually have a brain that functions. Satan uses and loves people like this...hopefully they will not hate themselves so much and their lives that they will be able to seek God and find a new life in Christ Jesus.
i CAN'T BEAR TO THINK OF JESUS PAIN AND TORTURE ENDURE TO SAVE US. THERE IS NO PERSON WHO WILL EVER BE BORN TO SAVE US AGAIN ONLY JESUS WHO TRULY WILL DESCEND FROM UP ABOVE TO SAVE US
I like that so many people try to say Jesus didn't die on a cross. It very obviously happened that way, as you can tell by a related piece of historical fact: Saint Andrew's cross. The symbol of Scotland (and thereby incorporated into the flag of Great Britain), this X-shaped cross came about when Andrew (one of the twelve apostles), in his ministry, was sentenced to death, and his persecutors wished to crucify him the way they crucified Jesus, but Andrew saw himself as unworthy of dying in the same way as his Lord, so he asked them to change it. There turned the cross over from a + shape to an X shape, and he was crucified like that.
There've been many stories about Jesus' death, but the story of Andrew's death is simply fact. His wish for the altered cross clearly states that Jesus must've been crucified on a cross, either + or T shaped. Whether it was shaped like a plus-sign or a tau doesn't really matter; it's the same thing, just with a different joint location. But history very clearly shows that Jesus did, indeed, die on a cross. And, he did, in fact, die from being on the cross, as this post points out--not by being pierced with a spear. The so-called "Spear of Destiny" WAS involved, but it played a MUCH lesser role than some people believe: after Jesus died, the Roman soldiers took a long spear and poked it into Jesus' side to make sure he was dead. When they pierced him, blood and water poured out. Not even a mix, either, and not blood and plasma, no--it was one stream of pure blood, and one stream of pure water. (John 19:33-37) This was a symbol of his simultaneous utter humanity (blood) and utter divinity (water).
Also, I have to say--it saddens me to see what Jehovah's Witnesses believe in. How can someone read the Bible and be so naive as to believe other than it says? And it's not just Jehovah's Witnesses, either--Catholics, Mormons, etc. They don't take the Bible for its word, thereby displaying disbelief: a lack of faith. And they choose to ignore the fact that the Scripture clearly states, "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book." (Revelation 22:18-19) Mormons very clearly break this rule with their "book of Mormon," and Catholics have a lot of rules and superstitions and such that have nothing to do with what the Bible says. Really, it saddens me--if you hear something you're unsure of, you should look it up in the Bible!
Jim Bishop's 1957 book, The Day Christ Died , goes into the cause of death very well.
seems as though someone is inferring a hell of a lot with zero evidence, Jesus lived and was taken down off the cross on the sabbath. Thats the end of one story and the beginnings of the illuminati
Religion is fucked and so is this.
Galatians 3:13,14 tells us clearly, "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith." He had to die on a tree. Whether it was a stake, a cross or a pole with a crossbar on top is of little importance. That he died on a tree for me and anyone who will receive Him is of utmost importance. Because He did, I am free. And he who the Son sets free is free indeed. I received this gift in 1974 and shortly after realized the extent of what He willingly went through for me, who deserved so little. I can't help but love Him and serve Him and speak out. He is my God and my Savior, both my Messiah and my Friend. And He is closer than any brother could ever be. And over forty years later, I'm still on fire. Why? Because He didn't have to... but He did! And I am forever thankful.
You can't convince someone to believe and you can't change a person who has experienced God to believe He's fake. A lot of athiests and non believers have turned to Christ not becos of another person giving a convincing argument but becos God has moved in their heart and shown them a piece of Him. I can't convince an athirst or non believer that God is real. But to me He is more real than you and I. He calms me, He talks to me, He answers me, He guides me, He helps me. If you think its just insanity or me needing to have a reason for existence then fine I don't care what you think. God has shown himself to me in huge way and thats why I believe! My father was raised in an athiest home, never even really thought about if God was a real thing or not till one day at his work when he was 17 years old. He was a groundskeeper for a park and these little kids were playing by a river and one fell in and couldn't swim. My father heard one of the boys screaming so he ran over to find one fell in so he jumped in and for 3 minutes he searched for that little boys body, finally he stopped for a second and prayed to God saying if you show me where this little boys body is I will follow you for the rest of my life God please just let me find his body. In that moment through the trees a burst of sunlight ran over a spot in the river and my dad swam to that spot and u der the water was that little boys body. To this day my father has committed his life to following God and he went to college to be a pastor and has never stopped serving Him and God has never stopped answering and blessing my father through the good and bad times. To my father and to me and a lot of Christians its not about a religion, its about a relationship that we found in God. A lot of the time its not about needing to have order and rules and a higher power. Its about 1 experience with a very real God that changed our worlds. And that experience led to another and another. I don't expect anyone who hasn't felt this overwhelming presence to understand. I just pray that one day you allow him to present Himself to you becos it is awesome and life changing. You will never be the same. Praise the Lord!
Who... All I'm going to say is God loves all of us. I'm praying for all of you to find the love of God. If we don't. Love on another we don't love God. And these are not my words there from the Bible...
If anyone is having doubts or questions as to the existence of God, I'd like to offer my own writing to help.
http://noahmoran-rush.blogspot.com/2015/03/answers.html
I am sorry for my sins, and I know that Jesus Christ died to save me. He is my Lord and Savior.
This post is hilarious. After all the excruciating details of a crucifixion, it asks very clearly, "Do you want to go to heaven?" Shows pretty clearly, to me at least, the Christian psychology is primarily based on death-avoidance and self-preservation (someone else dying for you, living past death in a perfect place--what a pipe dream!)
Garbage in garbage out - who made you "the smartest being alive". Unanimous afraid to reveal yourself can't take it. WARNING DO NOT ADD TO OR TAKE AWAY FROM BIBLE OR ##//^^!! $$
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Are you just instigating Facebook response.
Are you just instigating Facebook response.
Or the whole thing could be made up, and the invisible single dad in the sky didn't really impregnate a 14 year old with his kid to save the world from a punishment that he allegedly imposed after throwing temper tantrum #2 (of course #1 was destroying everything on the earth, except for 12 people, 2 animals of every kind and all the fish, whales, crabs, etc.)
If people still believe this nonsense, I fear for the future of humanity. You know, until Jesus comes back again from the sky or whatever.
I take issue with item #23.........crowds, and the thieves on both sides of Him were jeering, swearing and laughing at Him. In addition, Jesus' own mother was watching. This simply isn't true...One thief said remember me Lord when you come into your kingdom. Jesus said, "this day thou shall be with me in paradise."...Douglas Gibson
My father was murdered when I was 4 yrs old. My mother abandoned me with nothing but the cloths on my back and the shoes on my feet. My mother after not speaking for 12 yrs decided she was coming to see us ( July 26 2001) on her birthday (july16) she drank herself to death. Instead of getting the answers that I needed I got to bury her. I was left with nothing but sour feelings about what faith had to really offer me. I asked why me, why could you let this happen to me god with no reply. I would love for this to be a happy story, that I found god and all my prayers were answered and I'm a better person but I'm not I'm completely jaded in the whole idea that there is a invisible god that bestows gifts of miracles upon those who believe and he loves us all. I believed and loved and still got shit on. If you believe in god and feel you owe your life to him good for you but I'm not blinded but the cloud of religion.
Nobody else catches the contradictions in this?
I am a Christian and do not really question the event, however I saw this or one similar many years ago when I was in school. Since then I have been a military medic and civilian ambulance attendant. Having seen several people die from trauma, I now question this timeline. The physical body can only withstand so much trauma and pain before the Central Nervous System shuts down and mercifully the patient faints, or lapses into a coma, especially when dehydrated and in pain. Add de-oxygenation and the brain shuts down faster, much like a drowning victim passing out before involuntarily inhaling water and dying from soffication. In all of these accounts of 'crucifixion' and death by ancient torture methods nobody seems to ever take this physiology into account? This is not saying or detracting from the hideous cruelty of death by torture. I'm only stating that the timeline written here, even if by respected academics, is as flawed physiologically as Hollywood Action Adventure Movies. Point being the human body has thresholds in which the brain and central nervous system functions automatically shut down before death occurs. My problem with this type of story is it tends to drive genuinely 'educated' persons away from religion.
Wow. Mr technical difficult. I will pray for you to come into a relationship with Jesus and learn his grace and love so maybe you wont feel the need to pick apart petty differences of opinion. Its people like you who give christians a bad name. Relationship. Not religion.
If i am wrong then i wasted my life. If u are wrong then u wasted eternity. Think about that for a second. I cant even comprehend eternity and i believe in everlasting life. I feel sorry for those who dont. Living this life with nothing to look forward to when u die seems pretty boring to me. But u have one thing right. If u dont believe in Jesus then u really do have nothing to look forward to when u die. In fact u must live in constant fear of death and destruction because thats where ur going.
People.... wow... Sometimes i wonder if you really care about your soul. But i suppose u dont believe u have a soul. It really is your loss. As ive said before. If im wrong then i wasted my life. If your wrong then u wasted eternity.
Jesus' death on the Cross of Calvary was so excruciatingly painful, that we cannot begin to fathom just how he put up with all that pain and agony. As bad as that was, just imagine how infinitely worse the pain and agony will be if you do not ask Jesus for salvation, which will send your soul to spend eternity in a lake of fire.
Revelation 20, KJV
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
I would like to tell you about a free gift that is waiting for each and every one of you.
That gift is known as eternal life in heaven. It is very easy to receive this gift of salvation.
To accept it, there are only a few things you need to do that are very, very simple.
It goes like this: A, B, C:
A: Admit you are a sinner
B: Believe that Jesus died for you
C: Call on the Lord
Call upon Him (Jesus) to save you from sin.
By simple faith, receive the free gift of salvation that Jesus offers to each individual who will accept it.
John 14:6, KJV says: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Salvation is admitting you are a sinner and receiving a free gift of salvation.
If you would like to ask Jesus to save you right where you are, just repeat this prayer:
Dear Jesus,
I admit that I am a sinner. I believe you died for me. I call on you right now and ask you to come into my heart and save me, so that I will go to heaven after I die.
In your name, Jesus, I pray,
Amen
You literally just made fun of people believing in Jesus, stating "religion is for dumb people", and yet, your spelling and grammar are both atrocious. You, my friend, might be the dumb one here.
John 3:16 . Enough said
"It is the most painful death ever invented by man"
Please. Worse has been made and done.
-Sincerely, Satan.
Cynics are so brave on the internet. Jesus was real. History and fact prove it. Believe it, don't believe it, whatever. But you can't change fact into what you want it to be.
"All He Asks You is to Love Him, Your Lord, Your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind!! Can't you even do this for Him?"
You drive a hard bargain.
Absolutely not true. The prisoner would carry the patibulum (crossbeam) to the site.
The evil in the world has nothing to do with the Lord, but the sinfulness of man and the devil. He wouldn't have needed you to take him down. He has the capability to do anything. That's why he's God. He didn't come down because he was dying to pay for the sinfulness of man. Your sinfulness. If you would have "taken him down" you would not be saved.
Fictional Character? Ha. Even if you are not a christian, it is historically proven that Jesus existed. You're wrong. Why did you even waste you're time reading this if that's how you felt?
Question pertaining #34
It states Jesus was "bleeding from Scourging, the crown of thorns, the nails in His wrists and feet, and the lacerations following His beatings and falls."
Would his movements on the Cross have injured him in a way not mentioned?
Scraping against the wood surely would have caused even more trauma to existing wounds.
I pondered your thought, and its the most ignorant thing I have ever heard. Jesus was perfect, never sinned. He was handed over by the sinfulness of man to pay for man's sinfulness. Given that Jesus was both true God and true man, there was no other reason for the Father to send him down as true man: to pay for the sins of the world through death....even the sin you just committed by saying that.
You clearly are not a Christian if you believe he hasn't yet risen. Catholics are Christians. They wear the Crucifix as a reminder of Jesus's death and resurecction on the third day, Easter, for their sins.
That made just about as much sense as the English you used to say it....
Anonymous wow that means you are talking to no one. So why is there even and argument with no one. Every Christian knows what happened to Christ, so you shouldn't even allow (anonymous) aka no one to even matter. The bible says you know a fool by there much babbling. This clearly a foolish person.
SMOKE METH! HAIL SATAN
Just a thought.....Jesus did not worship anyone. God was a metaphor he used to explain the unexplainable, and like usual, humans misinterpret it. Human incompetence is at the root of all religion. Buddha did not worship anyone. These people - THEY WERE HUMAN BEINGS JUST LIKE ME AND YOU- SKIN AND ALL - would not have supported mass herds of obsessive followers. They would have encouraged free thinking, not the narrow minded worship of one dead human, they - being humble - ESPECIALLY would have completely hated being that one...... The irony is that the actual essence of these spiritual beings is entirely lost through their resulting religions created by others because religion represents EXACTLY what they desired to tear down - mindless following. Their teachings encouraged those to think for themselves. They did NOT encourage people to read a fictional book (the Bible) and take it as FACT, and create a weird cult-y club (Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism Islam, all the same shit) that runs society. Would you refer to Pet Sematary as a reference your pet? Think about it....
Deadly Fire in the Bronx: https://youtu.be/-xNbYb4oAjM
There was just a little bit of talking in circles in this lol
This article is pure crap and 90% of the people on this thread are mislead fools. If Jesus was hung on a T shaped device in this manner, it would have take much longer for him to die, but the scriptures indicate he expired so quickly that his legs didn't require breaking, which was a technique used to quicken the death of those crucified. Those accused of robbery were often tied to the crucifix and, because they could better support their weight with their arms, might survive for several days. One of the most severe methods of crucifixion put the arms straight above the victim, which expedited the asphyxiation, ego the reason we know Jesus was hung on an upright stake or stauros, which is Greek for stake/pole.
1st of all Jesus did die on the cross. Don't Y'all be acting dumb af. You all know Jesus hurt dying on that freaking cross. You all should feel how bad it hurt. Jesus made every one of us so believe In him and be proud. Don't Bs me because we all know that Jesus is real.
Savd4evr, that is not how salvation occurs!! Romans 10:9&10 tell us how. A guilt stricken person will say "I'm sorry!! Please forgive me!" To ANYTHING that will "get them off the hook"...we see this in children and adult children like addicts and also in criminals...their conscience gets to them and they cry out...but without sincerity.....you see?..first of all we MUST be sincerily honest with ourself. Then we must sincerily BELIEVE!! Believe that Jesus IS the son of God, that he died, and God rose him from the dead. And THEN confess those beliefs...yet they can ONLY be sincerely from the heart!!
Not exactly true!...
"GOD'S NOT DEAD HE'S SURLEY ALIVE!"
Greater than the suffering He endured from crucifixion, Jesus bore the wrath of God for sinners, proving that God was just & that every sin would require payment. Complete satisfaction of justice is required. The physical pain could be seen, but the spiritual suffering of Christ, 3 hours on the cross, is where He absorbed the wrath of God for all the sins of all who would ever believe. Those who reject His ample testimony, must bear God's wrath for their crimes against an infinite God & His holy nature - themselves, in a place called Hell. He loved us & He died for us. May we live for Him.
Amen.
Jesus Christ is alive! Repent for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand! Go back to your first love.
Most that were crucified were not scourged prior to the crucifixion. Jesus endured a scourging which was almost enough to put him in the tomb. Pure exhaustion also played a part in how quickly he died. In the overall scheme of things, it doesn't matter if it was a cross or a pole; he died.
I thought this was very interesting. It does place a new meaning to how he sacrificed himself to save us. However, maybe I'm wrong, but Jesus heart didn't explode. During his long hours of torment, a soldier stabbed him in the side with a spear, which no doubt made his pain more so than needed.
What a shame how one comment can make so many people argue and feel they have to be right. Be content in your beliefs and allow others to be content in theirs. Love one another as he has loved you. Smile and turn the other cheek.
And yes there is a pagan symbol by my name :)
As Christians, we have everything to live and die for.
The word does not say He died so we could go to heaven. The word says "He came that we would have life and have it more abundantly."
This a great read by Dr. Gary Habermas on the validity of the Resurrection. Search his website as well as there are plenty of resources there.
http://www.garyhabermas.com/books/books.htm
http://www.garyhabermas.com/books/dissertation/habermas_dissertation_1976.pdf
Anonymos, The Roman historian Tacitus records that the city of Rome had a specific place for carrying out executions, situated outside the Esquiline Gate, and had a specific area reserved for the execution of slaves by crucifixion. Upright posts would presumably be fixed permanently in that place, and the crossbeam, with the condemned person perhaps already nailed to it, would then be attached to the post. So yes there would be a stake In some cases, the condemned was forced to carry the crossbeam to the place of execution. The bible says Christ was made to carry his cross which would be the crossbeam.
It is time to stop arguing and trying to convince the people making negative comments, or claiming there is no God, because it will never make any sense to those who don't acknowledge God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. "The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
(1 Corinthians 2:14 NIV)
Jehovah's Witnesses for a long time have been distorting the Biblical account of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. They believe that Jesus died on a stake rather than a cross. John 20 states that there were nails in his hands(plural) If Jesus was died on a stake there would be one nail not two as the Bible teaches. Perhaps the greatest distortion that the JWs teach is that Jesus was resurrected as a "spirit creature" Again this is not what the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ is God incarnate and he died on the cross to redeem us from our sins. On the third day he rose from the dead just like he said he was going to do in John 2. The good news is that we can have our sins forgiven and live forever with God if we believe this and accept the free gift of the grace of Jesus. Eph 2:4-9
As an atheist I had a reason to die for others. I am a former Marine. I would have taken a bullet to protect the freedoms that you express every day.
It is shameful that a doctors work would be associated with a list of "amazing facts" that includes the word "probably" as many times as this list does.
This whole list is rubbish, and appeals to the same part of the modern mind that "torture porn" (Saw, Hostel) does.
Wake up Sheeple! Jesus was a Centaur from Alpha Centauri that came here for the babes and left because the party scene was weak!
Why is everyone entertaining the nonsense on this board ! We should all just pray for the people who think it's fun to belittle others and their beliefs ! You should keep your opioins to yourself ! We all have a right to believe what we want to believe ! As Christians we do not have to defend ourselves to anyone who doesn't believe ( we pray for them ) . Everyone has a right to an opinion and if its negative we should keep it to ourselves ! Besides what good hearted person gets joy by breaking down other people's beliefs or spelling ?
Satan is definitely alive in these posts!
A stake or a cross....JESUS DIED FOR HUMANITY....CHRISTIANS BICKERING OVER FOOLISHNESS....THE LORD LOOKS AND SHAKES HIS HEAD I'M SURE....PREACH THE GOSPEL!
With the interesting facts you are posting, I hope you are aware that his crucifixion in that era would have been on an X cross and not on a T cross.
Your assumption about what Jehovah's witnesses believe about the sacrifice of Jesus is completely inaccurate. I attended their memorial observance last night and they have the truest and most loving understanding of The magnitude of Jesus sacrifice and what it means for all of us. They do not believe that you have to die to receive the benefits if his sacrifice. They follow the bible completely no matter what, not just the parts that work for them.
Jeff H ^^^
You twist the scriptures to support untruths. Where in John 20 does the bible teach TWO NAILS where used? IT DOES NOT!! Nails, in the plural sense the word is used, does not imply two nails where used for his hands. We simply don't know how many were used as the scriptures don't say. Regarding his resurrection, Jesus was indeed raised as a spirit. If you knew what the bible teaches, you would know that it's impossible for Christ to be raised in the "flesh" because his body was essential to complete the ransom sacrifice. Without his body and perfect blood, there was no way to cover what Adam lost in the Garden of Eden, perfect human life! That is why his body was necessary for sacrifice and when he returned on the 3rd day, he returned in spirit but took on various fleshly forms, for his disciples and even Mary did NOT recognize him at first! 1 Pet. 3:18 says “Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, that he might lead you to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the SPIRIT".
This is one reason we have so many denominations people adding to and taking away from the bible (word of GOD) PLEASE PEOPLE STUDY YOUR BIBLE AND DO AS IT SAYS STUDY NOT READ AND TAKE WHAT MEN TELL YOU IF you have any Bible questions find you someone who can give you a bible answer
Cross or stake.. let's not get list in arguing over 'how' he died. The more important factor that we have to agree on is that he died and the reason WHY he died. We have to agree on this. Whether it was a cross or stake doesn't really matter. Just accept the fact that he died for you.
I believe that our Lord Jesus Christ was killrd.I don't believe he just die they killed him. I can't believe how those people chose a criminal over him. After all the good he had already done. He fed the hungry he healed the sick just wanted them to change their ways , but it was his distany to die for them and all their wrong doing as well as for us. If we were to kill someone the way they did we would be killed. We now are so humane that we kill the people that stabbed , killed our child or beat out elderly by injection I don't believe that is justice. Call me weird if you want whole heartedly I feel someone should have been held accountable for what they put him thru. I cry every time I go into a church and see him there on that cross. It makes me angry just to hear about it. I know that it was his distany to be killed for all there wrong doing and even for ours. So we have a chance to change to ask for forgiveness for any wrong doing because it is said he forgives all the time. If he feels you are worthy. I belive in him whole heartedly. He has done so much for me. I thank him everyday for everything he has gave me and for being by my side every time I am sick. May Ou Good Lord Bless us all now in this time of year and for ever.
It amazes me that so many people argue about the minor innuendoes in the story of Christ. Every account is true and false. You can ask 5 people to watch the same incident from different angles and they will have a different version of the incident. Are any wrong? No, they are all right from that viewpoint. It does not matter if you read the Bible, Quran, Book of Mormon, New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, Dianetics or any other scribe. To actually believe that you and your views of your chosen religion has the real truth is simple minded. Expand your minds and stop being Sheeple. Learn about Islam, Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism or even Atheism. You will notice something about their beliefs that they all have in common. Each and every one of them is based on human works. Whether it is attaining heavenly rewards, pleasing deities or ancestors, avoiding damnation, being liberated from the cycle of reincarnation, attaining nirvana, or achieving the best society in the here and now, every one of these world religions rely on human works. Moral of the story: While being here on earth in your human form, don't be a jerk to others and your life will be pretty good. I am signing as anonymous because I do not have time to quibble. But will sign on later to respond.
All I need to know is that he died for me and I love him with all my heart. Whether you choose to believe in him or not it is up to you. I invite you to do so but if you don't , he still died for you.
I dont get it at all. A man was tortured to death and you celebrate it? You believe that he took the punishment for you?
A religion based on DEATH and the fear of it.
Go into any Christian cathedral and see that its all about death from the grave yard and tombs to the symbols of war, the veneration of local war heroes and military generals and to top it all there's a figure of a man nailed to a cross either dying or dead. And dont presume you can convince me of the resurrection. 2000 years ago and no 1st hand proof or eye witnesses alive today. Religion is the opium of the masses.
Jesus didn't die so we can go to heaven.
He declared the kingdom of heaven is here and now, and ask within us. He came to earth to reveal to us what God is really like, and correct the false views of the jewish religious leaders. He died to give us an example of how God wants us to handle persecution and those who know not what they are doing. His death set us free.
Im just asking.. Not arguing either way.. Did everyone die this same way? Why is jesus death so much more dramatized than any others that suffered horribly the same way? And the horrible sufferings sence that they have done to people.. Again just asking a question not taking any glory from him.
To me, the most confirming part of this article is the part below the hand/stake picture where it says "Click here to buy Christian items".
I believe what I believe you believe what you believe as long as you believe that the bible is telling you to not do what you are doing right now judging other people only god can judge me every one else just has there opinions are like fingers everyone has them and everyone has them pointed back at them . So please don't make talking about god a war make it a discussion about how to be a better person so we can have a better life for all of us thank you and have a blessed Day.......And no I am not the anonymous that started this Debate over who is right and who is wrong I just hope to try and calm it
Go Here if you want to learn about the translation of cross in the bible, where it came from, and whether or not it should be used in worship.
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/did-jesus-die-on-cross/
It's seems that those who completely rely on science are in for a bigger let down than anyone. Much of science is based on 'theory' and not fact. Science is ever changing, and so are the theories. There's not much in science that has stayed consistent and factual from day one. Historically speaking, there are more accounts written of Jesus' existence than anyone else of that time. More than Caesar, Pilate, even more than Shakespeare.
Fictional characters rarely have such impact thousands of years later. It is FACT, that Jesus existed. This probably why the science worshippers don't believe, since much of their system is based on theory.
Odin hung himself on the Tree for nine days, sacrificed an eye to better see the future, and all of this was long before the mythology of Christianity.
This article is full of inaccuracies on the death process.
I don't want to follow a god who would give up his own child in such horror .. that's one spitefully mean spirit, there.
No one alive today really know the truth about any of this. All info we have about bible history is info from sinner who a prone to make mistakes unintentionally and intentionally. And Faith doesn't prove anything to be right in the physical, it only make it right in your mind and heart that's why it's considered as a leap. So while yall are worried about facts others are moving forward by obedience. Obey the laws that are not only just documented, but the one that you feel naturally. God bless
And science doesn't change only our ways of perceiving and understanding it. Planets didn't just appear one day they have already been we just discovered the tech to see them
Get out of chritianity and Jesus Christ wasn't white, he is a black man. Christianity is not of God do your research. Get out of all religions.
Argue, debate, convince, reject. What's the point... Having read some of the comments... The fact is... either you believe the Bible or not... I do. If you don't so what... Can I convince you? No? Will you take notice of my views? No. Will it stop me going to Heaven when I die? No. Will it stop me praying for my unsaved loved ones? No. The BIG debate has gone on for thousands of years... I have only been a Christian (born again) for 23 years, just a drop in the bucket against 200 years... But, I believe. If you don't, then hey ho. I am not going to waste my time and effort getting frustrated over it... Be blessed everyone.
that should read 2000 years
For some reasons, i don't give a fuck about this, and yet, i read it.
To the one ask i ng for proof of anything Christians believe, I'd like to point out that your beloved science has yet to definitively proof the big bang THEORY also. The historical facts prove that Jesus was real. The u dea that space is nothingness and that somehow nothing in the middle of nothing suddenly decided to explode for no reason and that said explosion SOMEHOW created matter even though none exsisted prior to the explosion? It's idiotic and takes a great deal of faith to believe that. I could be more descriptive with the exact theory behind the big bang as I've researched it extensively, but I don't believe you'd understand it so why bother? I barely understand it myself as it's complete nonsense. So before you try so hard to destroy another's faith, you better check on your own. It takes as much belief in nothing as it does to believe in God. And to the rest of you nay-sayers why does it bother you so much that other people believe in God that you feel obligated to attack them and their faith? Do you do this same thing to Muslims? Or Buddhists? Or what about Hinduism? Scientology? Seriously, this post Christian rebel bullcrap is getting old. If you don't want to believe, thats fine, but don't try to tear down others who do believe. It's not hurting you to leave them alone. I'd focus more on asking yourselves why you feel so driven to attack people with beliefs. My best guess? I'd say you're bitter and that. somewhere along the line you first decided you hated God because of bad experiences then decided to get back at Him by "not believing." That or you were just a rebellious punk growing up who was trying so hard to be different than the rest that you made it your mission in life not to believe. I may be wrong, and I'm man enough to admit I am when it happens, but jumping onto an article about something you supposedly don't believe in and then attacking the beliefs of others for no reason? Sounds awful peculiar when you think about it. Have a great day though to everyone, critics included.
P.S. Please forgive any spelling or grammar mistakes, my phone's keyboard hates me.
Jehovah > Search your dictionary. "Name of God"
> Check the copy of your bible. and turn to Psalm 83:18 "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth."
> Search on Wikipedia "Jehovah (/dʒɨˈhoʊvə/ jə-hoh-və) is a Latinization of the Hebrew יְהֹוָה, one vocalization of the Tetragrammaton יהוה (YHWH), the proper name of the God of Israel in the Hebrew Bible. This vocalization has been transliterated as "Yehowah",[1] while YHWH itself has been transliterated as "Yahweh".[2]"
Well, that is one truth you need to receive and understand, that God has a name. If this is the first time you have encountered this facts. You may be surprise of what more is there to know. All you need to do is study God's word, the bible. And there is one organization that uses God's name, Jehovah, and offers free bible study without anything in exchange except your time.
www.jw.org
Alright then people, instead of saying that it's just fake, why don't you prove to us that it's fake. Don't just tell us to read some random book, quote the author and give us substancial proof that supports your ideas instead of spouting words that have no argument to them. People used to believe that the world was flat and said that it was without. just because you said that it's false with no proof doesn't mean that it is what you say. Modern Christian holidays are unfortunately not the specific dates that real events happened. England and other european countries that were Christianized usually centered around the church. So the church which apparent duty at the time was to keep the country Christanized proclaimed many other non-christian holidays into christian based holidays. Easter used to be a pagan holiday honering the goddess of fertility and sex which was named Ishtar (pronounced Easter) but was changed to our current christian holiday based on the wrong belief that Jesus rose from the dead on easter day. Heck even Christmas' date is wrong. Archeologists say that the real date of Jesus' birth was in June/July not December. Also, if God didn't exist as Atheists say, and evolution was true, there would be no moral compass at all. We would live by what evolution stands for, Extinct others, or be extinct. We would try our best to survive as a race and since we can't live for a long time, it would be reproduction in means of keeping the human beings alive. Then that would mean that men could go around and rape any women they saw and be justified for they are contributing to the suvival of the human race. "Atheists should point out that life without God can be meaningful, moral and happy." (Julian Baggini) is what Atheists say. And honestly speaking, i don't think any Man or Woman would appreciate being forced to rape/being raped at all. Also, people say that there are so many proof that evolution is right. Well then why is evolution still a theory? Cuz there is no proof! Get that into your thick skull. If we ask you why do you believe in evolution, you all say "because people who are smarter than us say that it is true". So why don't you face your hubris and get rid of your own problems before judging other people. The so called "people that are smarter than us" cannot and i say CANNOT prove to the rest of the world that evolution is right so who are you to start saying that evolution is true and perfect while creationism is flawed and false. Also, Evolution is when one species turns into another specie through the proccess of natural selection and it's enviroment not the way people grow extra skin on their foot when walking barefooted. That is called Adaptation not Evolution. There is no proof that Evolution is true so stop screaming at the top of your lungs that it's true when you don't even have proof on such thing.
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